{"id":1106,"date":"2012-05-30T05:12:33","date_gmt":"2012-05-30T04:12:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.unixer.de\/blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/30\/mpi-3-0-is-coming-soon-updates-from-the-japan-meeting\/"},"modified":"2012-05-30T05:32:24","modified_gmt":"2012-05-30T04:32:24","slug":"mpi-3-0-is-coming-soon-updates-from-the-japan-meeting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/30\/mpi-3-0-is-coming-soon-updates-from-the-japan-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"MPI-3.0 is coming soon! Updates from the Japan Meeting."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unixer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/mpi3.png\" alt=\"mpi3v2\" title=\"mpi3v2\" width=\"260\" height=\"135\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1050\" \/><\/center><\/p>\n<p>The Japan MPI Forum was rather &#8220;mild&#8221; until the last day where we had all the votes. Several controversial things came up for vote and many things that were not ready were pushed for a vote. We were 16 organizations eligible for voting and each ticket would only need 9 yes votes to get in, rather small imho.<\/p>\n<p>While I am not 100% sure about the decision making process in the Forum, I think we made mostly sane decisions (some exception are of course strengthening this rule :-)).<\/p>\n<p>Executive summary:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>no fault tolerance for MPI-3.0: the Forum decided against the proposal<\/li>\n<li>no &#8220;true&#8221; nonblocking I\/O functions in MPI-3.0<\/li>\n<li>no helper threads in MPI-3.0<\/li>\n<li>removing the C++ bindings passed the first vote &#8212; scary!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Now to the detailed actions\/votes:<br \/>\n<strong>First Votes<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> the small fixes <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/187\">#187<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/192\">#192<\/a> <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font> <\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/194\">#194<\/a> (allow non-rectangular MPI_Dims_create) was <font color=\"yellow\">withdrawn<\/font> based on comments<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/195\">#195<\/a> (topology awareness in MPI_Dims_create) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font> because the ticket was obviously not ready\/clean<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/217\">#217<\/a> (helper Threads) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font>, it was always controversial<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/256\">#256<\/a> (MPI_PROC_NULL behavior for MPI_PROBE) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/271\">#271<\/a> (functions to query MPI_Info object) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font>, George raised an issue with the naming that we should fox before the final release<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/273\">#273<\/a> (immediate versions of nonblocking collective I\/O routines) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font>, got very close but raised the concerns that there is no optimized implementation even for the split I\/O right now<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/278\">#278<\/a> (update examples to not use deprecated constructs) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/281\">#281<\/a> (remove C++ bindings) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font>, unfortunately, long live C++ exceptions!<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/294\">#294<\/a> (MPI_UNWEIGHTED should not be NULL) <font color=\"green\">passed (clearly)<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/300\">#300<\/a> (minor issue in One Sided) <font color=\"green\">passed (clearly)<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/303\">#303<\/a> (move MPI-2 deprecated functions to new &#8220;Removed interfaces&#8221;) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font> after some discussion<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/313\">#313<\/a> (fixing init init and finalize) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/310\">#310<\/a> (clarify MPI behavior when multiple MPI processes run in the same address space) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font> because it was felt that it&#8221;s inconsistent with <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/313\">#313<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/317\">#317<\/a> (correct error related to MPI_REQUEST_FREE) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font> (trivial fix)<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/323\">#323<\/a> (new FT proposal) was <font color=\"red\">rejected<\/font>, it was controversial before and seemed to be edited until the last second. <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/326\">#326<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/327\">#327<\/a> were <font color=\"yellow\">withdrawn<\/font> based on that vote. So this means essentially no FT for MPI-3.0<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/328\">#328<\/a> (fix MPI_PROC_NULL behavior for mprobe\/improbe\/mrecv\/imrecv) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Second Votes<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> the two simple (nearly ticket-0) RMA changes <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/308\">#308<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/309\">#309<\/a> <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font> unanimously<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/284\">#284<\/a> (allocate shared memory window) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font> &#8211; woohoo! I thought the idea was dead a long time ago!<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/280\">#280<\/a> (hindexed_block) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font>, as expected<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/168\">#168<\/a> (nonblocking communicator duplication) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/272\">#272<\/a> (remove C++ bindings in nonblocking colls) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font> \ud83d\ude41<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/286\">#286<\/a> (noncollective communicator creation) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font>! <\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/svn.mpi-forum.org\/trac\/mpi-forum-web\/ticket\/305\">#305<\/a> (update MPI_Intercomm_create to use collective tag space) <font color=\"green\">passed<\/font><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Japan MPI Forum was rather &#8220;mild&#8221; until the last day where we had all the votes. Several controversial things came up for vote and many things that were not ready were pushed for a vote. We were 16 organizations &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/2012\/05\/30\/mpi-3-0-is-coming-soon-updates-from-the-japan-meeting\/\">read more<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1106"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1106"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1106\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1118,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1106\/revisions\/1118"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1106"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1106"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/htor.inf.ethz.ch\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1106"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}